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By Saraswat Punjabi brahmin on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 8:42 am:

The Time you Jat morons spend criticising and trying to rewrite history shows how much of an inferiority complex you have whist discussing brahmins. This seems to be the preoccupation of all loser indians today. But you are still no match to the resilient brahmins supremacy. If you were such lord and rulers why do you keep whining about what the brahmins enforced on society like they would not let anyone wear the sacred thread etc. Did they beat up your primate ancestor to stop him from wearing it? If all these things have been handed out to you in the past then it is a clear indicator of brahmin rule and supremacy over you neandrethal half breds which is possibly through force! You seem to have no conviction in your own abilities and seem to find glory in bringing others down and possibly finding a link with your "white masters" who you so dearly worship whether as brahmins or europeans. Is that your only claim to fame finding obsolete links with another race. We are all Indians, grow up or we'll have to force you all to do things all over again. If the smallest of a brahmin population can control you monkeys for thousands of years than perhaps you need to be ruled, did you ever wonder about that or you are only into spreading controversies!


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By Mohyal on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 8:04 pm:

My respected Mohyal brothers, I am very happy to see your involvement here. There is a lot of hatred against high castes here and must state that please do not be rude to people for their input as long as it is polite and educational.

I must stress that Mohyals although brave and glorious had absolutely no involement in the Karbala episode. This is a mistake so please do not profess this. Imam Ali (RA) never waged war against Sunnis as he was a Sunni himself. He battled with the rebels and that was a battle of stubborness of the Ummayad's, it was not a religious war.

The Karbala episode was basically with 72 ill equipped Syeds and their close family and friends who were all Muslims. There were no non-Muslims in this struggle. Our Mohyals never ventured out of India and we must stop making ourselves look bad by stating this nonsensical facts. The Karbala episode was very well recorded and documented which proves our absence in this battle.

To all the people on this board Im sorry but the tone on this board is extremely poor from a lot of racist and evil people who are small and extreme in there ideals and principles. I am making a polite request to sort this out or be prepared to stand your ground before your creator as one day regardless of whether you are Muslim, Sikh, or Hindu YOU WILL ACCOUNT FOR YOUR ACTIONS.


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By Anonymous on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 1:30 am:

this talk of brahmins of East India being Gaud Brahmins is not correct.Some are ,Not all.I am a brahmin from Bengal and am a Mohyal.We use the title Ganguly.The captain of Indian Cricket Team is also a Mohyal.We are spread across India


By dr singh on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 4:54 am:

jats are from sythian parts of ancient persia,they are probably related to the lost tribes of juda and where displaced under the rule of the babylonians who had a rule of moving conwuered people from there homelands.

these sythian tribes and clans roamed around central asia,europe and asia until becoming the modern jats,rajputs, huns,jutes,saxons and so on.many bs stories are spread around to stop people finding the truth. the truth is many white europeans share genetic traits with sythian descendants from india, including jats,rajputs,thakurs etc..


By Pakistani on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:22 am:

Hi all,
Did mohammed boned aysha when she was 6 or 9? Anyone?


By Pakistani on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 10:37 pm:

Yes we remember the other Mrs Gandhi, in 1971 that woman captured our 100,000 dickless islamic warriors in East Pakistan and dictated the geography of pakistan by tearing up pakistan in to two. Then Mrs Gandhi came and kicked our arse in Kashmir.

Lets hope this new Mrs Gandhi will not kick our arse.

And as for the Gandhis, well there is already 3 in the next generation, and many more to come in future generations.

Idiot Mushafart better watch it.


By Ram on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 4:48 pm:

It is hillarious to see former Jodhis (hand-readers) ranting that those who ruled you (e.g. Jat-Sikhs, Jats), had armies, owned land and controlled the villages, towns and kingdoms of northern India as your fictional make-believe pretent "lower castes" and "shudras" (BTW, fantasy Brahmin comic books or "shastras" are more propaganda and a wish-list than an actual history of Bharat).

The historical record shows that Punjab and western India was conquered by the Sakas (Indo-Scythians) before 200 BC. Jat origins are traced to Sakas and their Buddhist empires have references to western southasia as "Sakasthana" with Mathura, Multan, Peshawar, Sialkot, Jalandhar, Ujjain, Vedodhara as large Saka centers (r.f. Cunningham, A. (1888, reprinted 1971), Coins of the Indo-Scythians, Sakas, and Kushanas). The Saka-Buddhist empires of the Chastana-Satraps, Kushanas and Virkas (e.g. Harshavardhan of "Virk" Jat clan) controlled much of western southasia from 200BC-800AD (r.f. Dehiya, B.S. (1980), "Jats the Ancient Rulers"). Rajputs of UP, south Rajasthan, MP and Bihar, known as "Thakurs" are traced to 6th century Huns (r.f. Romilla Thapar, Tod, Ibbotson).

More lately, Punjab, Rajasthan and western UP was under the rule and control of Jats, Rajputs and Sikhs (70% Jats) before the British annexed their kingdoms in 1830-50s. Afghan historians (r.g. Feristha) only refer to "wars with Jats" in Punjab during 10-11th century and with "Rajputs" in Rajasthan. There is no mention of any "lala" and "Bahman" rulers or warriors ("kshatriyas")! But we can envision them lording over the vast tracts of "hattistan" and "jodhsistan".

Lets step out of pretend history!


By Ram Rajya on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 6:08 pm:

Pretend "Aryan Brahmins" may find this interesting . . .


DRAVIDIAN ORIGIN OF BRAHMANISM & HINDUISM

After reading early British conjectures on the Rig-Veda during the 19th century, it became very fashionable among newly western-educated Bengali and UP Brahmins (GAUR branch) to create an "Aryan origin" historical myth for themselves (they were recruited in large numbers as clerks for British officers). This ideological exercise was based largely on appropriating the history and heritage of distant Saptha Sindhu (present-day Punjab region) decades before the British “India” empire reached there in the 1840s. Soon a whole new industry of "Brahmo Samajis", "Arya Samajis", "Hindu-Maha-Sabas", RSS, and others was founded on these fancies and complexes. These organizations, in essence, launched the modern UP-Brahmin lead "Hindutva" nationalistic movement.

There is, however, overwhelming evidence pointing to a dravidian origin for the Gaur and Dravida branches of Brahmins while the Suraswats of the northwest region are traced by historians to the "Magi" Solar priests of the Sakas (or Indo-Scythians). Ironically, the post-19th century UP-Brahmin intelligentsia has been brainwashing the Suraswats into believing that both are "blood and race brothers" tracing back to the ancient “Vedic Aryans”. In fact, the easterly Gaurs and westerly Suraswats did not inter-marry. Further, Brahmanist propaganda and Parcharics have been culturally absorbing the Suraswats: replacing their traditional Saka-type dress (turban, uchkin, kurta-pajama) with the "sacred dhoti”, asking them to forsake the ancient Punjabi/Brij for Hindi (a 17th century pigeon dialect developed from “khari-boli” by the Mongols settling in UP).

Here is some of the very compelling evidence on Brahmin origins (the term "Brahmin" below refers to the Gaur/Dravida branches).

A) The original hymns of the Rig-Veda were composed by the Vedic Aryans of the ancient “Saptha Sindhu” country (located northwest of the Yamuna river up to the Indus river). These hymns describe only three Gods - Indra, Varuna and Mitra - as per se the Persian Avestan and depict the Vedic Aryans eating cows. Moreover, Avestan refers to "Rathastriyas","Vashiyos" and "Athravans" as members of "Arya" society, however, there is absolutely no mention of any "Brahmins"! Further, the more authentic Rig Vedic hymns contain verses such as "Indra, the destroyer of Krishna-yoni-dasyus" and Brahmanical literature depicts mythological battles between Indra (an Aryan Vedic God) and Krishna (a dark-skinned dravidian god) where Krishna is the victor and hero! Nor do we see any Vedic gods in any present-day Hindu Brahmin temples.

B) Brahmins and their non-Aryan deities are spread throughout southasia, Burma, Thailand, Indonesia, Bali, Malaysia. The physically traits of these communities are largely indistinguishable from the local population. "Brahmin" is hardly a racial concept.

C) The Sanskrit language expanded from the Punjab region to the rest of the subcontinent as some minority "Arya" groups broke RigVedic taboos and ventured southward from Saptha Sindhu (into present-day UP and beyond) occupied by the dreaded "dasyus". It appears that some of these groups managed to conquer some tracts of UP and found themselves ruling over a largely dravidian population. Out of political expediency, they most probably began using the local dravidian priests - the “Brahmins” - to entrench their new social order over the largely dasya population. This explains how the Brahmins, although ethnically separate, began appearing as the "borrowed" agents of the Vedic Kshatriyas outside of Saptha Sindhu. It also explains their acquisition and use of Sanskrit – just as Indians and English today.

D) Passages of Brahmanical literature (e.g. Gita, Karna Parva) "forbids" Brahmins from traveling to the Punjab region (west of Yamuna) and refers to the Vedic Aryans there as "mlechhas". This would be like the Rabbis "forbidding Jews from Jerusalem"! Clearly, the historical record as kept by the Gaur Brahmins themselves shows they had very little cultural, ethnic or historical ties to Saptha Sindhu - the land which spawned the RigVedic Aryan civilization in southasia.

E) The UP Brahmins, in their own genealogic records, trace their origin and ethnicity to Shankarcharya and his cohorts of Malabar who later migrated northward near the end of the Buddhist-era (7-8th century AD). The Brahmins of Malabar who spread northward after the demise of Buddhism in southasia can hardly be labeled "Aryans" (their lack of success in Buddhist Lanka so close to their Malabar homeland is documented in their distorted post-Buddhist version of the earlier Ramayanas).

Suraswats (and other Hindus of nothern India) need to wake up to the historical propaganda of the UP Gaur Brahmin intelligentsia who began pretending to be "Vedic Aryans" in the 19th century. In fact, they view the Suraswats as "low Brahmins" and after gaining power in 1946 are merely using them to uproot and denigrate the Jats and Jat-Sikhs (who controlled the Indus-Ganga region prior to British annexation in 1830-40s).


By Mohan on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 7:34 am:

they where called mussalman ke imam becaause they fought alonside Imam Ali in the Islamic wars of Karbala in Iraq.

Mohyals lost lots of lives in the middle east during the time of Imam Ali, the saying you are reciting is actually on a rock in Karbala. It is significant as without the help of the BRAVE MOHYAL warriors there would be no Sh'ia version of Islam. THe Mohyals fought Bravely against the Sunni's even thought they themselves where non-Islamic.


By Brahminical on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 6:20 am:

JATS ARE KSHATRIYA/VAISH CASTES related to KATHRIS and FOREFATHERS of RAJPUTS!
THEY ALL ARE RELATED TO ARYANS. (ARYANS AND HIGH SYCANTHICS)

JATS ARE KNOWN TO BE ONE OF THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN PUNJAB ALONGSIDE KSHATRIYAS


By Anonymous (204.179.188.129) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 4:24 pm:

Interesting to see a dsicussion on Mohyals.. I learnt a lot

Well I am a Mohyal and have heard stories handed down generatiosn, which I saw repeated here in the mail flow...

I remember my Dadiji saying Mohyals were like Muslims in their lifestyle outside home...and pure Hinuds in their lifestyle at Home !!! What she used to tell us was
" Waah Dutt Sultan, Adha Hindu Adha Mussalman "


By M JOSHI (62.253.32.7) on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:26 am:

SAcred thread, only 3 caste allowed to wear around the left shoulder. White thread definatly not red.
jatts not allowed to wear, only brahmin, kshatyia and vaish caste. no jat no tarkan or chammar allowed to wear. this is one of reason why sikh religion started because jat and rajput where considered lower caste and still are by the Arya society and top 3 caste in India. it is only NRI who do not know anything that think otherwise.


By Deepak Parsur (62.253.32.7) on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 4:21 am:

Mohyals are a great Warrior Brahmin caste who are mainly in Punjab now. Theyu have a very very great history and do not take Rudra Abishek as other Brahmins do. They do not accept any kind of donations from anyone but rather give to charitable causes.
The Mohyals are Aychack Brahmins and are related to other LAnd Holding Brahmins around India like the Bhumihar, Ganguly, Anavil Brahmin, Deshashta Brahmins, Tyagi, Parasar, they are all Parshuram Vamsha. And have strong postions from the earliest times.
Now days nobody knows the truth about who is what and people that are in the majority make up history to make themsleves look greater than everyone else.i.e. the Jat.
There are many Mohyal Brahmin that converted to the Sikh Panth, but know is the time of re-entering into our great history and Mohyal culture becasue we are living in a time when there is no Sikh Guru left to keep the Jat from overtaking the Sikh religion. #We have to preserve our Mohyal culture and not let other peoples cultures get mixed up with our own. My family stayed Mohyal Brahmin Hindu over the years but I know of many people of my own PArasur Gotra that became Sikh, I am sure that most of them think of themselves as JAt now and are probably not even aware about their ancestors great Past.
TO all Mohyals and other Warrior Brahmin Castes in the world that have helped in the preservation and the spread of Vedic knowledge at the same time holding on to land and ways of life that other Brahmin do not have.
Praise be to all Mohyal worldwide.
JAi Parshuram Avatar.


By Facts (24.69.255.242) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 4:18 pm:

Yeah,but technically ,ritually they are not allowed to do so ,guy! If they do it it's not sanctioned by Brahmins...Si it's apostacy,counterfeit,so to speak. Not real...It's a free world.For instance, just because Tiger Woods wears a tie and suit doesn't mean he's White.Same principal.

I don't think any self-respecting wishes to wear the thread,anyway.

No offense intended.

Best,


By . (213.10.173.29) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 2:35 pm:

Well I have seen Hindu Jatts wearing red threads round their pulses ..who says I'm a Sikh Jatt?I'm a HP Jatt


By Facts (24.69.255.242) on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 12:51 pm:

One thing is for sure,Jats can't wear it.


By jatt (213.10.173.29) on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 3:34 pm:

is the sacred thread only restricted to brahmins?
http://www.b4utv.com/modelwatch/abhinav.html


By Facts (24.69.255.242) on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 1:46 pm:

Look at the sacred thread on the dude. He's a Brahmin,Aryan,not 'Scythian' mumbo-jumbo..

Best Wishes


By j a t t (213.10.173.29) on Sunday, October 19, 2003 - 11:48 am:

http://www.b4utv.com/modelwatch/abhinav.html

check out this dude 1st pic

hes a hindu but looks very eastern european

probably descendant of scythians or aryans


By XXX (137.122.109.57) on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 9:06 am:

Hi Sunny,

You are probably referring to the following:

"Manu law--- A defeated peoples Bahman must never call his JAT JAJMAN an idiot, otherwise he/she will look after those multi-arm monkeys or
elephants rest of his/her life--curse! "

This was XXX's effort only!

Regards.


By Sunny Singh (207.213.221.191) on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 8:40 am:

Hi XXX,

What? Can you elaborate?


By XXX (137.122.109.57) on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 8:38 am:

Hi Bahman Facts,

Me no idiot!

Manu law--- A defeated peoples Bahman must never call his JAT JAJMAN an idiot, otherwise he/she will look after those multi-arm monkeys or elephants rest of his/her life--curse!

Best wishes.


By Sunny Singh (207.213.221.191) on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 8:22 am:

Hi Facts,

I too support the Mughal Brahman!

Regards,


By Facts (24.69.255.242) on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 8:04 am:

Mohyal,

Don't bother with XXX.He's an idiot.


By XXX (137.122.109.57) on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 6:28 am:

Hi Moyal,

By the way, chances for a defeated peoples Bahman to be BRAVE are as much as a fish has of perspiring!

Please stop talking through your hat! I understand that once monkeys and human-elephants used to fly in your wonderland!

Best wishes.


By mohyal (172.159.137.222) on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 7:28 pm:

hey guys,
well mr. XXX, all the brahmins r not like dat!!!!!!!!! i dont know which religions do u belong to but just wanna make it clear, if u r a muslim then askl yur ppl. who took revenge for IMAM HUSSIAN's(MOHHAMAD's grandson) death, who sacrificed his 7 sons to save the lives of IMAM ppl., Who stood behind them. He was RAHIB SINGH DUTT, a mohyal who did allt his. If u r a sikh then ask yur ppl. who was BABA BUDHA ji, who foought 5th guru in the age of 131 years & was first person to take care of HArimandir sahib. Ask who was BANDA BAHADUR who took revenge for Guru Gobind singh's sons. ASK who was BHAI MATIDASS, WHO WAS SATI DASS Who gave there lives with 9th guru ji. They were all CHHIBBER's of KARYALA in pakistan now. If U r hindu then wud let u know the person on the earth who stopped SIKANDAR to go deep in INDIA, who almost stopeed SIKANDAR was a mohyal PORUS VAID. What r u talkin about guy!!!!!!!!! mohyals have done everything to protect to INDIA but other ppl didnot. They didnot do ne thing. U say theyr coward but i wud let u know dat when one time auregnjeb sent his army to attack MATHURA he told his ppl ke u cant win dat place as BALI rulers rule dat place so use some trick. BALIS r also mohyals. And another thing when the whole of INDIA was converted to ISLAM only mohyals were not converted. even MOHAN'z who r also mohyals were only ppl. allowed to remain mohas & write teir full names with mohans. u r a ignorant man. read history u wud know everything.


By FOR U on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 5:31 am:

http://www.internationalexpeditions.com/about/india_nepal_cultural_history/ethnic_groups


By Facts on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 7:56 pm:

Hey 'cigs',

If Jats are so-called 'Scythians' they are Indo-Europeans.Indo-europeans include the Hindu Aryans and Europeans also.If Jats are related to Arabic(Hamito-Shemites) ,Hamites(as per some Muslim Chroniclers) or related to Jews(Pure Shemites) etc., then they are NOT Indo-Europeans!

Depends on which theory you believe,regarding Jats!


By cig on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 12:05 am:

magyar are east europeans


and brahmins are closer to east europeans rememeber the link u provided.


also the gypsies of india lambhani are not even the same race as the roma.

also remember roma are indo europeans.
and so are jats.

regards


By xxx on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 - 4:20 am:

well brahmins are close to east europeans and magyars are east europeans


By Facts on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 3:11 pm:

Dangerous Singh,

Mohyals are not Magyars...Do you say this because Mohyal sounds like Magyar?

Similar sounding mumbo-jumbo name theories work only for Jat history,I'm afraid.


By Khaternaak Dangerous Singh on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:51 am:

Are they the same as Mayar's or the Magdyars of Hungary which are supposed to have a common descent!


By BRAHMIN on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 4:03 am:

warrior brahmins lol


warrior and brahmin do not go together


where were these warrior brahmins when the persians,greeks,parthians,medes,scythians,huns,
kushans,arabs,turks, afghans, pathans the british (we can go on forever) ruled your •••••.


brahmins should just stick to palm reading and soothsaying and looking at stars to predict the future and run around naked what they are best at.


By XXX on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 8:25 am:

Hi Guys,

I thought all Bahmans see a mice as a lion--- Are they not the most coward people on this planet?

Best wishes to all.


By J A T T on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:43 am:

Who are Mohyals?
Mohyals are a class of Brahmins whose origin is shrouded in mystery.
They are a distinct category of Brahmins who combine military knowledge with wise learning and never pretended to do any priestly duties. This militant Brahmin race is divided into seven clans known as Datt, Bali, Chhibber, Vaid, Mohan, Lau and Bhimwal.

Any authentic history of their origin is not available. However, mention about them is made in historical records from the earliest times. During the time of the British East India Company , in the early part of the last century, TP Russell Tracey made a serious effort and wrote the history of this class , which was gratefully acknowledged by the General Mohyal Sabha at Lahore on 30 June1911.

He mentions that the Mohyals are primarily a military class, divided into seven clans claiming their origin from the Raj Rishis, who figured long before the Mahabharat, they have been prominently associated with the government of the country whether military or civil, in the days of universal Hindu rules. They have also figured at some early period of history in the affairs of Arabia, Central Asia Afghanistan and Persia . At the time of his writing he states that they were spread from Afghanistan, Punjab to Bihar. In UP and Bihar they were known as Bhumihars. The Bhumihars also claim their descent from Parshu Ram from whom the Chibbers also claim descent.

Mohyals claim their origin from the Raj Rishis who figured long before the Mahabharata. Being of pre-vedic origin the ancient Mohyals paid homage to their spiritual leaders like Parshu Ram. Their basic religion was the belief in the laws of morality as enunciated by the sages Vyasa and Vashishtha.

The Mohyals claim that they are the progenies of the great Raj Rishis who were distinctly different from the class of Brahm Rishis because besides being high priests of spiritualism, they also wielded temporal powers. In fact, Parshu Ram was the first Brahmin in history to wear arms and to conquer territories.

There are other theories about the origin of Mohyals. They have figured in Arabia as citizens and rulers of the land. They lived in Arabia like free citizens. The word 'Misr' in the Arabic script is inscribed on the antiques found in the possession of certain Mohyal families.

Values
Mohyals are paragons of valor and virtuosity and are always ready to sacrifice their lives for the sake of dharma or the nation. They have fought determinately against fanaticism, religious bigotry and social injustice. They have adapted themselves to the successive rules of the Mughals, the Sikhs and the British with no recorded instance of treachery.

Mohyals abhor 3 things : 'the taking of charity', 'the handling of scales(trading)' and 'living a life of laziness'. Though numerically unimportant, they are a stirring and enterprising race, and frequently rise to prominence in the service of the government which they enter in large numbers. They are remarkable among the Hindu population in being hereditary agriculturists seldom practicing trade and specially despising the life of indolence led by the ordinary Brahmin who lives by charity and with whom the Mohyals, though admitting a common origin, strongly object to be classed with. top

The word 'Mohyal'
The word Mohyal comes from the Prakrit form of the Sanskrit word 'mahipal' and does not seem to be more than 6-7 centuries old. With the passage of times, over the generations, a distinct class of Brahmins arose who discarded the priestly vocation in favour of administrative and military careers and became the ruling elite. It was a custom in those days that government servants were paid their wages in the form of land grants. The land given remained with the recipient family in perpetuity which led to the evolution of a new social order of the landed aristocracy. The Mohyals and the Bhumihars of East-Up were an off-shoot of this phenomenon. The word Mohyal is accepted as being the corrupted form of 'Mahiwal' or 'Mahipal' meaning 'the owner of land'.

There is another interpretation of its being derived from the word 'Muhin'. 'Muhin' symbolizes the 7 castes into which the community is divided. In ancient dialect 'Mohi' or 'Mahi' denoted land while 'al' meant respectable man. Mohyals were the masters of the land and their deity was 'Hal Ram' alias 'Bal Ram' alias 'Bal Dev'. He is the Aryan God of agriculture; in one hand he holds the plough and in the other the pestle. top

Habitat
From times immemorial till the partition of Bharat in 1947, the main habitat of the Mohyals was northern India, notably West Punjab (now part of Pakistan) , the erstwhile NWFP and Jammu & Kashmir. There were many districts like Rawalpindi, Jhelum , Gujrat , Sargodha and Gurdaspur in West Punjab which had large concentration of the community. There were villages in these districts in which a certain caste of the Mohyals dominated and the place was known with that caste as a suffix (e.g. 'Kanjrur Dattan', 'Tehi Balian' , 'Dera Bakshian' and so on..). Kanjrur itself was a conglomeration of half a dozen villages. Each one of them had a good number of Mohyals. The river Ravi was regarded as the limit of Mohyal country as there were very few Mohyals living on the east-side of the river.

In the ancient abodes, the 7 castes of the communities lived a closely knit life. Many families shared a common terrace or a balcony and their members lived on first- named terms with each other. In the early decades of this century, when the reclaimed 'Bar' area was being colonized many Mohyal families settled down in districts of Shekhupura, Lyallpur and Montogomerry and became owners of large agricultural farms and orchards. Lahore which was the seat of govt. and center for education drew hordes of Mohyals and they distinguished themselves in diverse professions. The city even boasted of a 'Kucha Balian'. Many adventurous Mohyals became citizens of Kabul, Burma and Nairobi. After 1947, Mohyals spread in all directions making the whole of India their home. Outside the country, there are a sizable number of Mohyals in UK, USA and Canada.

During the partition, the entire Mohyal community migrated to India but 2 valiant families decided to stay on in their ancestral Karyala. One was headed by Bhai Dalip Singh who was later shot dead by hired Muslim goons. The other Bhai Jagat Singh continued to stay there. He married a Brahmin girl of 'Pind Dadan Khan' whose parents also refused to leave Pakistan. Their children are still living there. top

Lifestyle
The Mohyals believed in the joint family system. The grandfather was the chief patriarch and the grandmother, the source of all inspiration. The women carried on with the traditions, observed fasts and represented the family in the community weddings and mourning.

The birth of son was heralded with the firing of crackers. When the boy was three years or five years old ,his Mundan (Jhand) was performed. The festivity and feasting on this occasion were on a scale next only to that of a wedding. A male lamb , with jet black head and spotlessly white body, its head washed in water and smeared with Vermillion and Curd was taken to a Jhand (prosopic spicigera) tree. The lobe of its ear was pierced and with its blood a `tikka' marked on the child's forehead. This was a symbolic baptism with blood and ordained the child to endure the wounds that might be inflicted in the battles to come. An earthen `diya' was lit and a wicker basket, turned upside down, was placed on it. It was surrounded by `thuthis'(earthen cups) The child in his bridal finery sat on the basket, and after the ceremony Was over, he would trample on the `thuthis', smashing them-signifying the crushing of the enemies. The sacrificial lamb was then slaughtered in one blow. It was eventually feasted upon, none but Mohyals being permitted to share it. It was considered as `prasad' And even the women, howsoever rigid vegetarians, had to take a morsel. Later on, some families substituted the lamb with it's effigy made out of `halwa.'

In the case of Sikh Mohyals ,instead of Mundan, Kesh Gunthan or coiffuring of hair was resorted to. The Jhand ceremony derived its name from Jhand tree which was the focus of the function. When the Pandavas were defeated by the Kauravas and exiled, they hid their weapons in the hollow of the Jhand tree. Ever after, the tree has been an object of worship by warrior tribes. These rites clearly show that from the earliest days a Mohyal youth was impressed with one object in life and that was that he was born to fight. The Mundans are still performed with great pomp but are shorn of the traditional rites.

Another auspicious ceremony in the life of a boy, before he grew 12 years old, was Yagyopavit. The function was performed in front of the sacramental fire,accompanied by the chanting of Vedic hymns. The sacred thread, made from spun wool, girdled the neck and the loins of the child suggestive of the cross-belt of a soldier and marked his anointment as a Brahmin. The thread was renewed Half- yearly, at the time of the Navratra Ashtmi.

On all ceremonial occasions, Mohyals prepared Mitteran-da-Halwa, which was distributed amongst the members of the clan. At the time of a girl's marriage, the brother gave puffed rice to his sister which she threw back over her head to symbolize that the bride will flourish in her new environs as the rice does on transplantation.

Every Mohyal family had its own Purohit ,a Bhat and a barber (Nai). The Purohit Solemnized all religious ceremonies, the Bhat used to recite ballads recalling the valiant deeds of the family's ancestors while the Nai was the traditional envoy for carrying messages.

The old Mohyals were very proud of the purity of their racial blood and never courted marriages outside their own fraternal fold. A divorce was never heard of. As they lived close to the battle scarred frontiers, in areas dominated by the Muslims, there was a definite stamp of the customs and ways of life of the Latter on Mohyals; e.g. they were by and large meat-eaters, the shalwar was a common dress of both men and women , Urdu was the medium of education. But whatever the political and environmental compulsions, the Mohyals faithfully preserved their racial identity, their social conventions and their inherent graces. They are a self- respecting class and resent injustice and insult.top

MOHYALS AS WARRIORS

A Mohyal is a Brahmin as well as a warrior. This paradox runs in every Mohyal family. Their history is an unending saga of sacrifice and gallantry.

When Alexander the Great invaded India in 326 BC he was challenged near Taxila by a mere chieftain. He was King Porus, a Vaid Mohyal. After his encounter with Porus, Alexander met with more resistance near Multan where the forces were predominantly Mohyal. Multan in those days was the capital of Bali rulers. They engaged Alexander's army in skirmishes in which many senior Generals died. The long and bitter fighting forced Alexander to call of his dream of conquering India and order a retreat.

The Mohyals also used their fighting prowess to uphold nobler values of life. They shed their blood at Karbala in 681 AD to show their solidarity with the Prophet's kin. In 1527, they were slaughtered to the last man, just to safeguard the viriginity of a Khatri girl.

During the Mughal and Sikh rule, they were bestowed with titles like Bakshi, Dewan, Mehta etc. in reward for their bravery. Maharaja Ranjit Singh appointed many Mohyals to his famous Vadda Risala-the Life Guards of the Lion of Punjab. During the British period, fifty percent of the Mohyal commisioned officers, were decorated with awards for their distinguished services.

After independence Mohyals have won laurels during the wars with China and Pakistan. When the Military Academy results are published Mohyals figure in large number amongst the successful candidates. When gallantry awards are announced, they form a sizeable number. top

COURTESY TITLES
All castes of Mohyals have the rare privilege of using certain titles with their names that were bestowed on them by the Mogul and Sikh rulers for their bravery and unimpeachable loyalty. These appellations which are still in use are:- Bakshi, Bhai, Chaudhri, Dewan, Malik, Mehta and Raizada. These epithets have a Persian connotation and imply status.

'Bakshi' means benevolent,
'Chaudhri' means head of the family or village,
'Dewan' means a landlord,
'Mehta' means the in charge of finance/property
'Raizada' means a wise man or adviser.

The title of 'Bhai' was specially conferred on the Chibbers of Karyala by the Sikh Gurus for their great sacrifices and devotion to dharma. The Dewans (prime ministers) of all the ten Gurus were Chibbers of Karyala. The title of Chaudhri was a mark of distinction of the Datts of Kanjrur, Veeram and Zaffarwal. The title of Dewan was used by the Datts hailing from Guliana and certain other places, Raizada was used mostly by Balis and occasionally by Vaids. The prefixes of Mehta and Bakshi are commonly used by the various castes of Mohyals. As some of the titles currently used by the Mohyals are also used by certain non-Mohyal communities, it is desirable to mention both the courtesy title as well as the caste with the name, to clearly denote the Mohyal identity. top

CASTES
A few centuries ago, the family of Mohyals was part of a conglomeration of 52 castes although they fraternized with only have a dozen castes apart from their own guild of seven castes. Even in their own circle of seven castes, the Mohyals in the past were rather cool towards the Laus and Bhimwals, in the matter of marriages, but this attitude is now wearing off. The Mohyal community was facing serious difficulty in finding matches for their children in their own fraternity, even before partition. Somehow they were able to manage the alliances amongst themselves and thus preserve the genealogical purity of the clan. This was possible because the community almost in its entirety lived in the Punjab, in formidable strength in numerous mandis. However after partition, the demographic map nderwent a change with only about 10% Mohyals left in the Punjab, nearly 20% settled in Delhi, around 30% living in Haryana, Himachal Pradesh and UP and the rest scattered in small numbers all over the country and in foreign lands. As a result of these changes, an already critical matrimonial problem confronting the Mohyal society was further aggravated. This led to marriages being courted not only with non Mohyal Brahmins but even with non-brahmins.

Some of the counterparts of the Mohyals in different states are: Tyagis, Purohit, Vyas, Chitpavans, Mishra, Sinha, Bhaduri, Chakravart, Ganguly, Goswami, Maitra, Sanyal, Dass, Iyers. top

References :

1. The History of Mohyals - A Legendary People
- by Shri P.N.Bali

2. The History of The Muhiyals - The Militant Brahmin Race of India
- by T.P.Rusell Stracey


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